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i am joined by rupert murdoch plus -- rupert murdoch's biographer. >> who is to blame. how high that goes is still to be seen. the culture comes from need to make stories, the decision to break the rules. the decision to go that extra 200 miles into illegality. they did not know what was going on and that is inconceivable. >> you were rupert murdoch's biographer. you knew him well and his motivations. is it realistic that he did not have a grip at what was going on. he must have an eye on this. was there an inkling that perhaps he would just let things go. he was a control freak, wasn't he? >> he was a control freak. he had a free hand. there is the responsibility for this appalling thing that happened. "the guardian," has done a good job and exposing it. this is appalling. he was not in day-to-day control. >> was rebekah brooks in day-to- day control? >> yes. >> why is she still being backed when it is clear that legal opinion will come to see what kind of responsibility, she was the editor when the phone was being attacked. >> i understand what happened. what month of
i am joined by rupert murdoch plus -- rupert murdoch's biographer. >> who is to blame. how high that goes is still to be seen. the culture comes from need to make stories, the decision to break the rules. the decision to go that extra 200 miles into illegality. they did not know what was going on and that is inconceivable. >> you were rupert murdoch's biographer. you knew him well and his motivations. is it realistic that he did not have a grip at what was going on. he must have an...
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of commons speaks with one voice today, and i hope he will so come to the debate, that rupert rupert murdoch should drop his bid and listen to the house of commons? >> i agree with what the right on gentleman says. i agree the house is speaking with one voice. the government has a job to do to act within all times of the law, and my righthand of the secretary has to obey every aspect of the laws. laws that were put in place by the last government. yes, as the honorable member says, we should look at amending the laws. make sure the fit and proper test is right. we should make sure the competition and enterprise is right. i think it is perfectly acceptable, one at the same time to obey the law that the business has got to stop the business of mergers and get on with the business of cleaning it's stables. >> this is the thing, i look forward to debating the issues with the leader of the house who will be speaking for the governor later in the debate. mr. speaker, i know he's making a statement shortly about the inquiry. can we confirm something that we agreed last night. we need to make sure w
of commons speaks with one voice today, and i hope he will so come to the debate, that rupert rupert murdoch should drop his bid and listen to the house of commons? >> i agree with what the right on gentleman says. i agree the house is speaking with one voice. the government has a job to do to act within all times of the law, and my righthand of the secretary has to obey every aspect of the laws. laws that were put in place by the last government. yes, as the honorable member says, we...
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nor brooks nor the murdoch empire. lynn, back to you. >> jim maceda in london for us. jim, thanks so much. >>> well, back here at home on capitol hill the back and forth battle over the nation's budget crisis will reach the house floor today when republicans vote on a plan calling for steep spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. well, democrats say the measure will never pass the senate, and president obama has vowed to veto the bill. still, the president is saying he is seeing progress. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with more. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. republicans are calling this bill cut, cap and balance. essentially they want to cut the deficit, cap what the federal government is spending and then move toward a balanced budget amendment. an amendment to the constitution. democrats say those cuts hurt too heavily medicare and social security. it is expected to pass the house, not expected to pass the senate. will not get the president's signature. so that, de
nor brooks nor the murdoch empire. lynn, back to you. >> jim maceda in london for us. jim, thanks so much. >>> well, back here at home on capitol hill the back and forth battle over the nation's budget crisis will reach the house floor today when republicans vote on a plan calling for steep spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. well, democrats say the measure will never pass the senate, and president obama has vowed to veto the bill. still, the president is saying...
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reversing the tide, which has been going completely south on the murdoch empire and the murdoch holdings here in great britain. in terms of him stepping down. there have been some rumblings about that among some of his stockholders in some of his companies. but the experts here are saying that's unlikely at least for now. it depends on what comes out of this meeting. it depends on a number of things, especially a couple of inquiries going on. a criminal investigation and a judicial inquiry being run here and what new information comes out. as far as we know, so far, all of this hacking took place five years ago. if there are more current examples of this hacking, that could really doom the murdoch empire. back to you. >> jim maceda, thank you very much. msnbc will be covering the murdochs testifying. >>> back at home on capitol hill, the back-and-forth battle over the nation's budget crisis will reach the house floor today when republicans vote on a plan calling for steep spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. democrats say the measure will never pass the senate and presid
reversing the tide, which has been going completely south on the murdoch empire and the murdoch holdings here in great britain. in terms of him stepping down. there have been some rumblings about that among some of his stockholders in some of his companies. but the experts here are saying that's unlikely at least for now. it depends on what comes out of this meeting. it depends on a number of things, especially a couple of inquiries going on. a criminal investigation and a judicial inquiry...
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the fbi is now investigating murdoch's news corporation. there's an accusation that his employees may have tried to hack into the phone conversations and voicemails of 9/11 victims and their families. rudy giuliani was mayor of new york during that time. he and murdoch have been friends for a long time, so what does giuliani make of all this? >> intercepting communications like that is a crime, it has to be investigated. i think what there shouldn't be and we've learned recently with a bunch of criminal cases of different kinds, don't rush to judgment, give people a presumption of innocence. i think that just how high up it goes is a big question and it's one we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions about. >> speaking of hacking, somebody absolutely plundered the pentagon in the spring, it was one of the worst breaches ever of security. listen to these details. >> indeed, in a single intrusion this past march, 24,000 files were taken. >> it was done, we think, by a foreign intelligence service, in other words, a nation state was behind it. >>
the fbi is now investigating murdoch's news corporation. there's an accusation that his employees may have tried to hack into the phone conversations and voicemails of 9/11 victims and their families. rudy giuliani was mayor of new york during that time. he and murdoch have been friends for a long time, so what does giuliani make of all this? >> intercepting communications like that is a crime, it has to be investigated. i think what there shouldn't be and we've learned recently with a...
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the murdochs said they would come and answer the questions. >> in a letter, james murdoch said "i am now coming. i would like to answer them in a different forum." the questions keep coming. why did the news of the world mislead parliament? why did the management failed to find out what was going on and stop it? as for rebekah brooks, we ask about what she told the mps. the mp whose committee will be asking the question was optimistic. >> i hope the committee will want to hear the truth. this is not about a lynch mob or an opportunity. >> the lawyer representing the family of the girl his phone was tapped as his doubts. >> we will be skeptical. we will see the three monkeys. they will say -- no one was speaking about this. >> in an interview, rupert murdoch insisted that his company had handled the crisis extremely well and he denied he would sell his newspapers. he said that he would work to establish his integrity. this scene is set for an extraordinary confrontation between parliament and the press. a chance for parliament to discuss these issues. >> austerity is the word and cond
the murdochs said they would come and answer the questions. >> in a letter, james murdoch said "i am now coming. i would like to answer them in a different forum." the questions keep coming. why did the news of the world mislead parliament? why did the management failed to find out what was going on and stop it? as for rebekah brooks, we ask about what she told the mps. the mp whose committee will be asking the question was optimistic. >> i hope the committee will want to...
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desi further agree that if the house of commons speaks with one voice today, rupert murdoch should drop his bid to be -- should recognize the world has changed and should listen to this house of commons. >> i agree with what the gentleman said. i think it is good that the house of commons is going to speak with one voice. the government does have a job to do to act at all times within the law. yes, as the honorable member at said, we should look at amending the laws. we should make sure that this is right. we should make sure the competition and enterprise act are right. i think it is perfectly acceptable to obey the law as a government and to send a message from this house of commons that this business has got to stop the business of mergers and get on with the business of cleaning its stables. >> i look for work to debating this issue with the leader of the house. >> mr. speaker, i know he is making a statement about the inquiry. can he confirm something that we agreed last night? we need to make sure that we get to the bottom, not just of what happens, but also about the relationship
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"wall street journal", murdoch overpaid for that. at the end of the day this is an entertainment company. >> interesting. who is the next to fall in the scandal? >> well, the sewage waters are lapping at the guccis of james murdoch. now that rebekah brooks rebekah brooks and his trusted allies gone. his son is where it goes next. he was responsible for these properties in london at the time. rupert and james and rebekah brooks rebekah brooks will be testifying before parliament this week in the uk. someone asked me today from cnn how to describe that. it's more like an impeachment hearing for murdoch who is a quasi government powerful official in the uk. >> does this change anything? you said something about a leveraged buyout possibly of fox news, talking about our competitor here. you think this is going change the way that news is done or that they handle news if what you say, indeed, comes to fruition. >> i can't imagine newscorp itself can afford to be in the news business any more or afford the murdoches. the next question in t
"wall street journal", murdoch overpaid for that. at the end of the day this is an entertainment company. >> interesting. who is the next to fall in the scandal? >> well, the sewage waters are lapping at the guccis of james murdoch. now that rebekah brooks rebekah brooks and his trusted allies gone. his son is where it goes next. he was responsible for these properties in london at the time. rupert and james and rebekah brooks rebekah brooks will be testifying before...
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it could be very costly to people who hold murdoch paper. they might have to entice shareholders back in and that carries financial risks as well. reputational risks on both sides of the atlantic. legal processes in the uk and potential lawmakers getting more interested in the company in the u.s. ramping up the pressure, according to s&p. >> steve sedgewick helping us out for cnbc. thanks so much. now with the deadline to reach a deficit deal now exactly two weeks away, the rhetoric as you've witnessed heating up as lawmakers scramble to try to strike a deal. the house is expected to vote today on what it calls the cut, cap and balance plan. that's the republican-backed legislation that includes a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget. it's a measure that the white house has warned that president obama would veto and yesterday press secretary jay carney outlined the obama administration's exact objections. >> what we are witnessing here with this measure is classic washington posturing, kabuki theater. this is a measure that i
it could be very costly to people who hold murdoch paper. they might have to entice shareholders back in and that carries financial risks as well. reputational risks on both sides of the atlantic. legal processes in the uk and potential lawmakers getting more interested in the company in the u.s. ramping up the pressure, according to s&p. >> steve sedgewick helping us out for cnbc. thanks so much. now with the deadline to reach a deficit deal now exactly two weeks away, the rhetoric...
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everybody needs murdoch's support. i think that eventually this is going to fade away. >> do you remember the phase willful blindness in connection with enron crimes? >> yes. it's looking the other way. >> do you think -- willful blindness will obtain in the case of prosecuting and perhaps convicting rupert? >> they may try. >> and his son. >> they may try. >> willful blind sentence. >> i don't think rupert has any -- hold it. i don't think rupert, as of now has any kind of criminal liability whatsoever. the people have a problem are below him. >> when you have a hot story, the editor, the people above say, how did you get that? it's diagnose to be very difficult to insulate the people at the top if these allegations prove true. >> let's see if we can >> thank you columbia, challenger, discovery, endeavour, and our ship atlantis. thank you for protecting us and bringing this program to such a fitting end. >> before daylight thursday morning, atlantis, the u.s. space shuttle, returned to earth. this landing brings the c
everybody needs murdoch's support. i think that eventually this is going to fade away. >> do you remember the phase willful blindness in connection with enron crimes? >> yes. it's looking the other way. >> do you think -- willful blindness will obtain in the case of prosecuting and perhaps convicting rupert? >> they may try. >> and his son. >> they may try. >> willful blind sentence. >> i don't think rupert has any -- hold it. i don't think...
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for one day, it was a pretty good day for the murdoch's. >> could james murdoch be the heir apparent? >> 1 said that if james murdoch had done particularly badly, it would have hurt his possibility of taking over as ceo. he seems to be taking charge during this session and it did not heard him. -- did not hurt him. any day they are not hurt is a good day. >> do you see long-term reputation damaged to the company, regardless of what happens with these institutions? >> i have been tried to ponder how you measure that damage. people will still flock to see 20 century fox movies and to buy the wall street journal's. in the short-term, clearly there is a stain on the u.k. newspaper operations. there was an attempt to contain the damage. >> there is an fbi investigations into the phone hacking and a traditional inquiry and a police investigation on the other side of the atlantic. these will be very problematic. >> if they do will arrive, they would be. it is hard to believe we would get to that point. there is no evidence that any victims of 9/11 had their phone hacked. other government reg
for one day, it was a pretty good day for the murdoch's. >> could james murdoch be the heir apparent? >> 1 said that if james murdoch had done particularly badly, it would have hurt his possibility of taking over as ceo. he seems to be taking charge during this session and it did not heard him. -- did not hurt him. any day they are not hurt is a good day. >> do you see long-term reputation damaged to the company, regardless of what happens with these institutions? >> i...
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murdoch, his son james, and rebekah brooks are supposed to be talking before parliament. >> birgit? >> the former news of the world journalist had been hired by cameron as his press spokesman, and he had been hired even their david cameron was warned that he was actually involved in the phone hacking scandal, so it is his closeness to rupert murdoch and to some of these journalists that is being questioned at the moment by many people in the british public. >> speaking of rupert murdoch, he has built up a very powerful media empire in the united states and britain and elsewhere. how badly has his empire been affected by this scandal? >> well, tuesday is going to be a really fascinating day. rupert murdoch and his son and a former editor, rebekah brooks, will be appearing before parliament and will be answering questions and why they have not acted on it. ed miliband, the leader of the labor party -- labour party, they will be arguing for his power to be curbs. there is a big discussion. in the u.s., and they are investigating. tomorrow and the next days and weeks are going to be fas
murdoch, his son james, and rebekah brooks are supposed to be talking before parliament. >> birgit? >> the former news of the world journalist had been hired by cameron as his press spokesman, and he had been hired even their david cameron was warned that he was actually involved in the phone hacking scandal, so it is his closeness to rupert murdoch and to some of these journalists that is being questioned at the moment by many people in the british public. >> speaking of...
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the fbi has opened an investigation into allegations that murdoch's news corp. saw to hack into the phones of september 11 victims. we start tonight's coverage with this report from our deputy political editor. >> parliament has costumed the news of the -- to answer the questions of the mp's of why so many were hacked. >> my message to rebekah brooks is do the decent thing. it cannot hide away from this level of public english. >> they were reluctant witnesses. they told the committee he could not attend the future session. james murdock said he could not come. rebekah brooks said chiappone -- welcome the opportunity to do so but would not discuss anything that relates to the ongoing police investigation. the talk was of a formal summons. the threat had worked. they change their minds but they would now be coming to answer m.p.'s questions. in the second letter, james murdock said we're running to confirm our attendance by -- and concerned where are asked to yet answer further questions in a form on top of the judge let inquiry and the police investigation. what
the fbi has opened an investigation into allegations that murdoch's news corp. saw to hack into the phones of september 11 victims. we start tonight's coverage with this report from our deputy political editor. >> parliament has costumed the news of the -- to answer the questions of the mp's of why so many were hacked. >> my message to rebekah brooks is do the decent thing. it cannot hide away from this level of public english. >> they were reluctant witnesses. they told the...
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for more on the fallout and future of murdoch's u.s. properties we want to get a check of business with steve sedgwick in london. the first question is, what will happen to rupert murdoch's companies in the u.s.? is anyone else in jeopardy right now, including his son? >> reporter: there are real question marks about where the buck stops. many people thought rebekah brooks, a close confidente of rupert murdoch, would be safe but she's the latest member of his empire to fall on her sword. real questions about u.s. titles and whether they'll be tainted as well. those titles include the fox cable network, "the wall street journal," which has a strong editorial representation, and of course dow jones news who i worked for at one stage in my career. a lot of questions about those titles and what kind of governance news corp. will look like going forward. lots of question marks about the independence of the news corp. board and whether we'll see moves on that front as rupert murdoch is forced to relinquish some power. >> the u.s. secretary of
for more on the fallout and future of murdoch's u.s. properties we want to get a check of business with steve sedgwick in london. the first question is, what will happen to rupert murdoch's companies in the u.s.? is anyone else in jeopardy right now, including his son? >> reporter: there are real question marks about where the buck stops. many people thought rebekah brooks, a close confidente of rupert murdoch, would be safe but she's the latest member of his empire to fall on her sword....
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breck of works -- rebekah brooks and james murdoch and rupert murdoch to answer the call from the select committee on culture media and sports to give evidence to this house next tuesday? >> my friend is completely right about this. these are people who are key figures in the newspaper industry and the media industry in britain and they should not be above the select committee. it is absolutely right that they come before the select committee. >> was he saying these things to rupert murdoch when he was eating his canapes three weeks ago? >> let me say to the hon. gentleman, this is opportunity for this house of commons to speak with one voice on these issues and that is what we should do today. i was going to say that the issues here go to the integrity of people working at news international. the chair of this house posies select committees said he was misled. the head of the press complaints commission said she was like to buy news international. james murdoch has admitted serious wrongdoing in the company, and there are allegations that news international new debt phone hacking was wi
breck of works -- rebekah brooks and james murdoch and rupert murdoch to answer the call from the select committee on culture media and sports to give evidence to this house next tuesday? >> my friend is completely right about this. these are people who are key figures in the newspaper industry and the media industry in britain and they should not be above the select committee. it is absolutely right that they come before the select committee. >> was he saying these things to rupert...
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rupert murdoch stepping down. and it's political drama because he's so influential in british politics. and american politics. counselor, he knows there's criminal investigations on both sides of the atlantic. rupert murdoch and his deputies need to be careful, don't they? >> think of how difficult it is for them. they have to do two almost entirely contradictory things in their testimony tomorrow. one is they have to acknowledge responsibility. they have to say that what is completely obvious is that this was not some aberration. this was not one person or ten people. it was apparently thousands of people who were hacked and the idea that they didn't know is preposterous. but they can't confess to crimes. practically everyone around them has been arrested already. rebekah brooks, rupert murdoch's protÉge in great britain, arrested yesterday. they have to acknowledge but not admit. frankly, i don't know if it's possible. >> matthew, a bizarre twist. the whistleblower, shaun hoare found dead. what do we know about
rupert murdoch stepping down. and it's political drama because he's so influential in british politics. and american politics. counselor, he knows there's criminal investigations on both sides of the atlantic. rupert murdoch and his deputies need to be careful, don't they? >> think of how difficult it is for them. they have to do two almost entirely contradictory things in their testimony tomorrow. one is they have to acknowledge responsibility. they have to say that what is completely...
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james murdoch thanked ms. brooks for her service. he said we support her as we takes the step to clear her name. >> one of the more vocal critics referred to her desire to remain on the bridge. >> she now says she likes to be on the bridge. i would not have liked her to be on the bridge. that is why she has gone, thank god. >> this afternoon, rupert murdoch acted to underline the apology offered by his former chief executive. he traveled to meet the family who lost their daughter and are among the alleged targets of the phone hacking. the shock expressed by her parents and sister has fuelled a sense of national outrage. >> mr. murdoch emerged after an hour to a barrage of questions. his lawyer eventually gave details of the conversation. >> he was humbled to give a full and sincere apology to the dowler family. we told him, the family told him, that his papers should lead the way to set the standard of honesty and decency in the field. >> tomorrow, rupert murdoch's signature will appear on an apology and everyone of their papers. he
james murdoch thanked ms. brooks for her service. he said we support her as we takes the step to clear her name. >> one of the more vocal critics referred to her desire to remain on the bridge. >> she now says she likes to be on the bridge. i would not have liked her to be on the bridge. that is why she has gone, thank god. >> this afternoon, rupert murdoch acted to underline the apology offered by his former chief executive. he traveled to meet the family who lost their...
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could rupert murdoch be next? >>> and making headlines for more than just their new movie, find out if justin timberlake and mila kunis will attend a marine ball. and now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today." just your first stop of the day, today, on your nbc station. have a good one.
could rupert murdoch be next? >>> and making headlines for more than just their new movie, find out if justin timberlake and mila kunis will attend a marine ball. and now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today." just your first stop of the day, today, on your nbc station. have a good one.
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both murdochs face parliament on tuesday. one of those to grill them is tom watson. >> i want to know was he aware a crime had taken place, who gave him the advice, those kind of things. i would like rupert murdoch to tell us what he knew as well. >> reporter: and finally, scrambling on high ground is britain's prime minister, under pressure to showing the extent of his relationship of his relationship with the murdochs, he was forced to release records showing 26 meetings with them or their employees since they took office. he also hosted james murdoch and rebekah brooks at his official country residence. cameron like most british politicians, courted the murdochs because the newspapers could make or break their political careers. no longer. as criminal and judicial investigations are under way, murdoch's spell is broken. dana lewis, cbs news, london. >> mitchell: it is the weekend drivers in los angeles have been dreading for weeks. what is being called carmaggedon is now under way. a stretch of the 405 freeway, one of the
both murdochs face parliament on tuesday. one of those to grill them is tom watson. >> i want to know was he aware a crime had taken place, who gave him the advice, those kind of things. i would like rupert murdoch to tell us what he knew as well. >> reporter: and finally, scrambling on high ground is britain's prime minister, under pressure to showing the extent of his relationship of his relationship with the murdochs, he was forced to release records showing 26 meetings with them...
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they posted claims that rupert murdoch had been found dead. it has emerged that officials in the american state department and the libyan government held a meeting in tunisia. americans say they delivered a certain message that colonel gaddafi must step down. more details about the meeting. >> from the american side, the u.s. ambassador to libya until this crisis blew up in february, together with a senior state department official from the region -- they were the representatives of the united states. we do not know who was at the meeting from the libyan side. we do not know who called the meeting. we do have a rundown from state department officials in washington. they say a clear, firm, and unambiguous message was delivered to the libyans from the americans. that message, they say, was that the only way forward in libya, the only way out of the libyan situation, was for colonel gaddafi to step down. that is the message to the americans took. >> that is the washington side of things. do you have any implications of how libya is seeing this? >
they posted claims that rupert murdoch had been found dead. it has emerged that officials in the american state department and the libyan government held a meeting in tunisia. americans say they delivered a certain message that colonel gaddafi must step down. more details about the meeting. >> from the american side, the u.s. ambassador to libya until this crisis blew up in february, together with a senior state department official from the region -- they were the representatives of the...
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in other words, may be replacing james murdoch all together. i spoke to a member of the board this afternoon. he called those reports, quote, total crap. wolf? >> what about the british prime minister, david cameron? is he in any jeopardy now? >> when this scandal blew up a couple of weeks ago, most observers would say no, he's not but some observers are saying this is very embarrassing to him, lapping at the door of ten downing street. embarrassing because of his ties to that editor andy coulson and others. now not out of the question he could suffer at some other level. whether it takes him down or not, doubtful, but he could suffer politically. >> brought andy coulson into his government as director of communications. thanks very much for that. >>> meanwhile, the scandal has grown closer to rupert murdoch as brian reported with the arrest of his protege and deputy rebekah brooks. more on her meteoric rise and stunning fall. >> reporter: in the cozy world of british politics and media, rebekah brooks was at its very center. she wined and dine
in other words, may be replacing james murdoch all together. i spoke to a member of the board this afternoon. he called those reports, quote, total crap. wolf? >> what about the british prime minister, david cameron? is he in any jeopardy now? >> when this scandal blew up a couple of weeks ago, most observers would say no, he's not but some observers are saying this is very embarrassing to him, lapping at the door of ten downing street. embarrassing because of his ties to that...
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the star of the show, media titan rupert murdoch. as investors around the world hanging on his every word and gesture. he is used to giving orders and not answering questions especially from politicians who until recently held him in either awe or terror. >> this is the most humble day of my life. >> reporter: by his side, his son james, the senior executive in the murdoch family empire. >> the company has admitted liability to victims of illegal voice mail interceptions, has apologized unreservedly, which i repeat today, to those victims, and the company also set up a compensation scheme independently managed by a former high court judge. >> reporter: he is known to have authorized payments to phone hacking victims on conditions that they keep quiet. after the murdochs, their former british ceo rebekah brooks will face the committee. brooks, as editor of "news of the world" newspaper when the hacking was taking place was a hands-on manager. >> rebekah brooks knows the answers to all of these questions. she knows who knew what about
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the influence that the murdoches have had. the way he managed to advance his business empire by heavying up on politics. these are newspapers which use personal stories of the most i'll have kind very often in order to humiliate people in power. in a way, of course, he's right. all journalists should give people in power hell. but the motivation in this case turns out to be slightly different. what he doesn't get, actually people in britain are just sick of it, and that pie in the face, you know, i think in america, why is a poor old man getting a pie in the face? a lot of people in america will feel sorry for him. not in britain. >> i kept watching it today, thinking citizen cane. thank you very much. a pleasure. >>> still ahead tonight, tony blair's press secretary with a behind-the-scenes look at how the murdoch media empire had britain's most prominent politicians battling for its blessings. n e highw. how does it do that? well, to get there, a lot of complicated engineering goes into every one. like variable valve timing
the influence that the murdoches have had. the way he managed to advance his business empire by heavying up on politics. these are newspapers which use personal stories of the most i'll have kind very often in order to humiliate people in power. in a way, of course, he's right. all journalists should give people in power hell. but the motivation in this case turns out to be slightly different. what he doesn't get, actually people in britain are just sick of it, and that pie in the face, you...
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neil shon worked for another murdoch partner, the sun. he is now a news analyst. >> fantastic networking, and of course an ability to do the job. >> reporter: it was in 2002 with brooks at the paper's helm that news of the world reporters allegedly hacked the phone of murdered teenager millie dowler, a case that shocked and infuriated this country. brooks denies any knowledge of phone hacking, and has apologized. for the last decade, the charismatic editor has rubbed elbows with the rich and famous, and the powerful. she has had close personal relationships with the three most recent prime ministers. as recently as last december, david cameron met twice with brooks in visits that his office describes as social. cameron has come under fire for his connections to murdoch's news international. his former spokesman andy coleson, also a former editor of news of the world was arrested last week. cameron himself admits the relationship between politicians and the media has become in his words cozy and comfortable. the head of the opposition says
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the fact is rupert murdoch is on the run now. and the great german word that explains what's been going on is that the british public really likes seeing somebody like rupert get his comeuppance. >> i was hoping that schadenfreud would come up tonight. thank you for joining us tonight. >>> up next, in this world-shaking murdoch scandal, what if in the end all the major players walk away essentially untouched. if you think it can't happen, think again. we'll be right back. to make science as exciting as a video game. i need to reach peter, who's falling behind. and push janet who's 6 chapters ahead. ♪ [ male announcer ] with interactive learning solutions from dell, mrs. davis can make education a little more personal. so every student feels like her only student. dell. the power to do more. i find investments with e-trade's top 5 lists and use pre-defined screeners to work smarter. not harder. i depend on myself to take charge of my financial future. [ bell dinging ] took some crazy risks as a kid. but i was still over the edge
the fact is rupert murdoch is on the run now. and the great german word that explains what's been going on is that the british public really likes seeing somebody like rupert get his comeuppance. >> i was hoping that schadenfreud would come up tonight. thank you for joining us tonight. >>> up next, in this world-shaking murdoch scandal, what if in the end all the major players walk away essentially untouched. if you think it can't happen, think again. we'll be right back. to make...
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murdoch! >> reporter: now it's rupert murdoch himself who takes center stage in the unfolding hacking drama that has engulfed his empire. >> this is the best thing that could ever happen for critics o rupert murdoch to say he has too much power. >> reporter: murdoch and his son will tell british lawmakers how much they knew about accusations that their journalists paid off police and hanged into phone records. so will rebekah brooks who police are already investigating. controversy has forced the head of scotland yard and his deputy to resign over their alleged links to a former murdoch executive. the scandal has reached the highest levels of the british government with opposition leaders saying the prime minister himself has questions to answer about his close ties to the murdoch empire. >> at the moment if he is unable to provide the leadership the country needs. >> reporter: rebekah brooks is a friend and neighbor to the prime minister. the pair met repeatedly since cameron took office 14 m
murdoch! >> reporter: now it's rupert murdoch himself who takes center stage in the unfolding hacking drama that has engulfed his empire. >> this is the best thing that could ever happen for critics o rupert murdoch to say he has too much power. >> reporter: murdoch and his son will tell british lawmakers how much they knew about accusations that their journalists paid off police and hanged into phone records. so will rebekah brooks who police are already investigating....
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murdoch. it halted the entire hearing. we are still waiting to hear from rebekah brooks. if you see it he was trying to get a pie in the face of rupert murdoch. if we can get that shot back up again, you can see in niz left hand a tin -- and see if we can get that shot back up. it looks like he had a tin in his left hand a cream pie that he was going to smash in the face of rupert murdoch during these hearings. the man was quickly taken away in handcuffs. you saw the images of him outside he had something all over his face. wendy dang in the pink jumping up. she is a volleyball player. that looks like a spike. she's known to be a fan of volleyball. anyway, you can see the pie right there trying to get in the face of rupert murdoch. the woman in the gray i'm not sure who she is. she was sitting to the left op of wendy dang. michelle is with us now. is this ovenly some type of protesters coming in to disrupt this and create a true embarrassment to rupert murdoch by delivering a pie in the face?
murdoch. it halted the entire hearing. we are still waiting to hear from rebekah brooks. if you see it he was trying to get a pie in the face of rupert murdoch. if we can get that shot back up again, you can see in niz left hand a tin -- and see if we can get that shot back up. it looks like he had a tin in his left hand a cream pie that he was going to smash in the face of rupert murdoch during these hearings. the man was quickly taken away in handcuffs. you saw the images of him outside he...
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rupert murdoch stepping down. and it's political drama because he's so influential in british politics. and american politics. counselor, he knows there's criminal investigations on both sides of the atlantic. rupert murdoch and his depth tigs need to be careful, don't they? >> think of how difficult it is for them. they have to do two almost entirely contradictory things in their testimony tomorrow. one is they have to acknowledge responsibility. they have to say that what is completely obvious is that this was not some aberration. this was not one person or ten people. it was apparently thousands of people who were hacked and the idea that they didn't know is preposterous. but they can't confess to crimes. practically everyone around them has been arrested already. rebekah brooks, rupert murdoch's protÉge in great britain, arrested yesterday. they have to acknowledge but not admit. frankly, i don't know if it's possible. >> matthew, a bizarre twist. the whistleblower, shaun hoare found dead. what do we know abo
rupert murdoch stepping down. and it's political drama because he's so influential in british politics. and american politics. counselor, he knows there's criminal investigations on both sides of the atlantic. rupert murdoch and his depth tigs need to be careful, don't they? >> think of how difficult it is for them. they have to do two almost entirely contradictory things in their testimony tomorrow. one is they have to acknowledge responsibility. they have to say that what is completely...
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murdoch needed things from them. that never needed to be stated but everyone understood that that was hanging in the air and that's what this judicial inquiry has to get to the bottom of. >> i think murdoch's control of 37% of the britishress plus b sky b led to this conviction from tony blair to cameron that you had to have murdoch on your side. and, you know, when you're in britain you don't feel murdoch's running the show. i mean, you can read "the guardian," you can read t telegraph, you can read t daily expres you can read the f.t. but i just wonder but blair, i'm sure, would have won the election in 1997 without murdoch. it was the end of the toris just as it was the end of new labor in 2010. murdoch had his finger in the wind and he went with these guys but i don't myself bieve e elections uld have come out any differently withou so i think there was a kind of mythology that hadbuilt up. we have to have murdoch with us. and now it's the opposite. we have to trash him. >> rose: john burns, how much has been has
murdoch needed things from them. that never needed to be stated but everyone understood that that was hanging in the air and that's what this judicial inquiry has to get to the bottom of. >> i think murdoch's control of 37% of the britishress plus b sky b led to this conviction from tony blair to cameron that you had to have murdoch on your side. and, you know, when you're in britain you don't feel murdoch's running the show. i mean, you can read "the guardian," you can read t...
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murdoch is a very astute player. many say that his move by closing the "news of the world" is bold and brave. >> louise, i will have to interrupt you there for a moment, i'm afraid. woe just got the prime minister, david cameron, just about to address newsmenme mennewsmen. let's listen in. >> families who lost loved ones, sometimes defending our country, that these people could have had their phones hacked into in order to generate stories for a newspaper is simply disgusting. i cannot think what was going through the minds of the people who did this. that they can hack into anyone's phone is disgraceful. but to hack into the phone of millie dowder, a young kirl missing from her parents who was later found to be murdered, is truly despicable. but this scandal is not just about some journalists on one newspaper. it's not even just about the press. it's also about the police, and, yes, it's about how politics works and about politicians, too. i want to be very frank about how, as a country, we should deal with this. pe
murdoch is a very astute player. many say that his move by closing the "news of the world" is bold and brave. >> louise, i will have to interrupt you there for a moment, i'm afraid. woe just got the prime minister, david cameron, just about to address newsmenme mennewsmen. let's listen in. >> families who lost loved ones, sometimes defending our country, that these people could have had their phones hacked into in order to generate stories for a newspaper is simply...
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it was just a week ago murdoch flew to london and stood by her side, all smiles. brooks had a rise at the krngs becoming editor of "news of the world" when she was only 32. neil sean worked for another murdoch paper "the sun" and now an nbc analyst. >> she rose to the top through sheer ambition, fantastic networking and an ability to do the job. >> reporter: in 2002 with brooks at the paper's helm that "news of the world" reports allegedly hacked the phone of murdered teenager, milly dowler. brooks denied any phone hacking and apologized. she has rubbed elbows with the rich and famous and the powerful. she has had close personal relationships with the three most recent prime ministers. as recently as last december, david cameron met twice with brooks in visits his office describes as social. cameron has come under fire for his connections to murdoch's news international. his former spokesperson, andy cowl so coulson was arrested last week. cameron says the relationship between media and politicians has become, in his words, cozy and comfortable. the head of the op
it was just a week ago murdoch flew to london and stood by her side, all smiles. brooks had a rise at the krngs becoming editor of "news of the world" when she was only 32. neil sean worked for another murdoch paper "the sun" and now an nbc analyst. >> she rose to the top through sheer ambition, fantastic networking and an ability to do the job. >> reporter: in 2002 with brooks at the paper's helm that "news of the world" reports allegedly hacked the...
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of service to murdoch was not enough to save him. hinton resigned friday as head of dow jones and company, which publishes the "wall street journal" and is part of news corporation's media empire. but it is not his tenure at dow jones that has drawn attention. no one has questioned the reporting of the "wall street journal." instead, it's his 12 years-- from 1995 to 2007-- as chairman of murdoch's news international that's under scrutiny, amid scandalous and possibly criminal reporting tactics, including voice mail hacking by company employees, one of them, andy coleson, who went on to become an aide to the british prime minister. >> i believe absolutely that andy did not have knowledge of what was going on. >> reporter: this may be why hinton is in trouble. in 2007, he told members of a british parliamentary committee he believed only one journalist- - clive goodman-- have been involved in any wrongdoing. >> the police obviously carried out pretty thorough investigations and the result of their investigation was against clive and th
of service to murdoch was not enough to save him. hinton resigned friday as head of dow jones and company, which publishes the "wall street journal" and is part of news corporation's media empire. but it is not his tenure at dow jones that has drawn attention. no one has questioned the reporting of the "wall street journal." instead, it's his 12 years-- from 1995 to 2007-- as chairman of murdoch's news international that's under scrutiny, amid scandalous and possibly...
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it does not stack up. >> and when she said that her former employer rupert murdoch and james murdoch were open and honest and going out of the way to say that, and richard, the other thing that when the deng murdoch and this woman's name is trending at the top of the internet when you put her name in, and people are searching after this moment, and play it again, played out at the end of rupert murdoch's testimony. we have not been able to independently identify this man, but he leapt out of the crowd and attempted to smash rupert murdoch in the face with this pie. let's play it. we don't have it. nonetheless, richard, this woman is now intrigued by who she is and the role, and when you look at some of the articles focused on wendi mur do, and now one in harper's bazaar magazine and she has a movie coming out "sun flower and the secret fan" and she a vixsen running things behind the scene. who is this woman? >> no doubt that rupert murdoch runs the company and the children from the previous marriage. she a marketing executive and i have met her and she is fiesty and we have friends i
it does not stack up. >> and when she said that her former employer rupert murdoch and james murdoch were open and honest and going out of the way to say that, and richard, the other thing that when the deng murdoch and this woman's name is trending at the top of the internet when you put her name in, and people are searching after this moment, and play it again, played out at the end of rupert murdoch's testimony. we have not been able to independently identify this man, but he leapt out...
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murdoch. i asked you whether this letter which is still lying on the record as evidence given to this committee is not for whatever reason, would you like to withdraw it? >> respectfully, i am not aware of the legal technicalities of withdrawing that or submitting it on the record. i think it is a relevant document in trying to understand how news international was thinking at the time. >> we'll ask you the question -- >> so i would say no, but i can come back after taking counsel and seeing if it's a better idea to do it. >> i want to wind up given the time, but i've got a few more questions. as you've described it, and as collin miler described it to us, the e-mail investigation was carried out by the i.t. department and it was overseen by the director of legal affairs, john chapman, and the human resources director, daniel cloak. is that your understanding? >> pardon me, what was the question? i don't understand. is it my understanding that -- >> the investigation itself. you have described
murdoch. i asked you whether this letter which is still lying on the record as evidence given to this committee is not for whatever reason, would you like to withdraw it? >> respectfully, i am not aware of the legal technicalities of withdrawing that or submitting it on the record. i think it is a relevant document in trying to understand how news international was thinking at the time. >> we'll ask you the question -- >> so i would say no, but i can come back after taking...
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murdoch. but bloomberg news reports murdoch's future could depend on this morning's testimony. charlie d'agata is in london with the latest on this. good morning, charlie. >> good morning to you, betty. i think we can expect some high drama later this afternoon. some fireworks. the fact is, a lot of people are angry at the murdochs. british politicians are going to take advantage of that fact, and come out with the gloves off. now, it's rupert murdoch himself who takes center stage in the unfolding hacking drama that has engulfed his empire. >> for rupert murdoch this is the best thing that could ever happen. this is the best case they could ever have to argue against murdoch and say you have too much power. >> reporter: murdoch and his son james will tell british lawmakers how much they knew about allegations their journalists tapped into voice mails and regularly paid off police. so will former british ceo rebekah brooks who police are already investigating. the controversy has forced the he
murdoch. but bloomberg news reports murdoch's future could depend on this morning's testimony. charlie d'agata is in london with the latest on this. good morning, charlie. >> good morning to you, betty. i think we can expect some high drama later this afternoon. some fireworks. the fact is, a lot of people are angry at the murdochs. british politicians are going to take advantage of that fact, and come out with the gloves off. now, it's rupert murdoch himself who takes center stage in the...
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don. >> let's look ahead to tomorrow, rupert murdoch, james murdoch, rebekah brooks to testify in house of commons. what can we expect from this? >> the big box office will be rupert murdoch, one of the world's most powerful media moguls, sitting in front of members of parliament in the british house of commons, being cross-examined essentially about what he knew at news international, news corp, about this phone hacking scandal, we are expecting to hear much less from rebekah brooks, former ceo of news international. editor of "news of the world" as with she's already been arrested so there is a police investigation into her conduct and her -- what she's been up to. and so she's going to be much more con stained as to what she'll be able to see legally to the mps, who will be asking questions. also constraints on what the mps can ask rebekah brooks. they don't want to jeopardize the ongoing criminal investigation into what brooks may or may not have done. an interesting day to watch tomorrow. >> matthew chance in london tonight, thank you very much. >>> now more on in-depth coverage. t
don. >> let's look ahead to tomorrow, rupert murdoch, james murdoch, rebekah brooks to testify in house of commons. what can we expect from this? >> the big box office will be rupert murdoch, one of the world's most powerful media moguls, sitting in front of members of parliament in the british house of commons, being cross-examined essentially about what he knew at news international, news corp, about this phone hacking scandal, we are expecting to hear much less from rebekah...
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murdoch was unhurt. before that, rupert sought to distance himself from the news of the world thought to be one of his favorite titles. >> this is not an excuse. here's the one with less than 1% of our company and 53,000 people around the world. we have prior and great and unethical and distinguished people. >> one was sitting beside him. his son whose apparent lack of knowledge at times seemed almost comical. here questions about key documents that weren't initially handed over from news international's lawyers to the police >> the lying with them. >> i cannot speak to other individual's knowledge in the past. i can't. i simply can't speak for them. >> stewart? >> the same goes. i simply can't speak for them. >> critics call this stonewalli stonewalling. james murdoch was clear on one point. >> i would like to say how sorry i am and how sorry we are. to particularly the victims of illegal voice mail interceptions and their families >> at times they appeared overwhelmed or unsure how to answer or could s
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murdoch, have you considered resigning? >> no. >> why not? >> because i feel that people i trusted, have let me down. and i think they behaved disgracefully, betrayed the company and me. and it is for them to pay. i think frankly, i'm the best person to clean this up. at no time do i remember being as sick ed as when i heard what the -- sickened as when i heard what the dowling family had to endure. which was last monday nor, do i recall being as angry when i was told that the news of the world could have compounded their distress. for a newspaper that hold others to account and failed when it came to itself. behavior that -- the behavior that occurred went everything that i stand for. and my son too. not only betrayed our readers and me, also hurt the many thousands of magnificent professionals in other divisions of our company around the world. so let me be clear in saying, invading people's privacy, by listening to their voice mail is wrong. paying police officers for information is wrong. they are inconsistent with our standards of conduc
murdoch, have you considered resigning? >> no. >> why not? >> because i feel that people i trusted, have let me down. and i think they behaved disgracefully, betrayed the company and me. and it is for them to pay. i think frankly, i'm the best person to clean this up. at no time do i remember being as sick ed as when i heard what the -- sickened as when i heard what the dowling family had to endure. which was last monday nor, do i recall being as angry when i was told that the...
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murdoch sr., you in answer to questions from mr. watson seemed to indicate that you had a rather hands-off approach to your company. i think the point you made was that "news of the world" was less that 1% of your entire worldwide business, and so you wouldn't really be expected to know the ins and outs of what was going on. could you just give us an illustration of how many times -- how often you would speak to the editor of your newspapers? how often you'd speak to the editor of the sun, for example, how often you would speak to the editor of the "news of the world." >> very seldom. sometimes i would ripping the editor of "news of the world" on saturday night and say we have news tonight, just to keep in touch. i'd ring the editor of "the sunday times" nearly every saturday. not to influence what he has to say at all. i'm very careful to premise any remark i made to him, it's just an inquiry. i'm not really in touch. but to say i'm hands-off is wrong. i work a 10 or 12-hour day and i cannot tell you the multitude of issues that i
murdoch sr., you in answer to questions from mr. watson seemed to indicate that you had a rather hands-off approach to your company. i think the point you made was that "news of the world" was less that 1% of your entire worldwide business, and so you wouldn't really be expected to know the ins and outs of what was going on. could you just give us an illustration of how many times -- how often you would speak to the editor of your newspapers? how often you'd speak to the editor of the...
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in addition to rupert murdoch being in the hot seat, james murdoch will be there and rebekah brooks, former "news of the world" editor and chief sbekive of news international. she of course was arrested sunday and released without charge in connection with the phone hacking and she could be limited in what she has to say because of the ongoing police investigations, nina. >> atika, we've had the death of sean hall, former "news of the world" employee who was also a crucial whistle-blower her and two top coppers in the land departing as a result. it's the questioning very serious now. >> reporter: is getting serious and with the death of sean hohrer, unexplained but not considered suspicious at this time but he was the one who pointed the finger at andy coulson and david cameron, not only did andy coulson will phone hacking, but he actively encouraged the phone hacking. this threatens the murdoch media empire but really also downing street, that prime minister cameron himself is now taking this very seriously. he is coming back early from south africa today to attend a special day of
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>> james murdoch has got to be the focus right now. because of course rebecca brooks and les hinton both having been gone, james murder okay runs news international. he has the number three position at the company, essentially, after chase carey, an executive who's not part of the family. that is the key question at this point. it's got to be, lester, whether or not he can hang on to that position. >> now to the question of whether this moves across this side of the pond. as we noted, news corp. controls "wall street journal," fox, a number of brand names. they have a lot of viewers and readers in this country. are any of them in jeopardy at least to be tarnished by this? >> there may be perhaps some tarnish that -- that goes on at this point. but the key question is, when you have the fbi at least being asked by certain members of congress to investigate, at this point, of course, they haven't issued any subpoenas. it's not clear that they will. nonetheless, lester, when you get to a point where the fbi might in fact do that and inves
>> james murdoch has got to be the focus right now. because of course rebecca brooks and les hinton both having been gone, james murder okay runs news international. he has the number three position at the company, essentially, after chase carey, an executive who's not part of the family. that is the key question at this point. it's got to be, lester, whether or not he can hang on to that position. >> now to the question of whether this moves across this side of the pond. as we...
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james murdoch. can i also thank you for making yourself available to the committee this afternoon. >> we are more than prepared to talk to you. >> thank you. perhaps i might start with mr. james murdoch. you made a statement on the 7th of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements to parliament without being the part of the facts a and that was wrong. you said parliament was misled in has we had been told. can you tell us to what extent we were misled and when you became aware of that? >> mr. chairman thank you very much. first i would like to say as well just how sorry i am and how sorry we are to particularly the victims of illegal voicemail interceptions and to their family. it's a matter of grave regret of mine, my father's and everyone at news corporation and these are standards, these actions do not live up to the standards that our company aspires to everywhere around the world, and it is our determination to both put things right, make sure these things don't happen again, a
james murdoch. can i also thank you for making yourself available to the committee this afternoon. >> we are more than prepared to talk to you. >> thank you. perhaps i might start with mr. james murdoch. you made a statement on the 7th of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements to parliament without being the part of the facts a and that was wrong. you said parliament was misled in has we had been told. can you tell us to what extent we were misled and when you...